Darfur

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
I havent hit your link yet but this disaster has been going on for awhile now, I cant believe that the US hasnt stepped in(yes I can but Im ashamed).
Additionally Al-queada has forces there and Sudan has backed them in the past.
So the statement that Bush made about kickin the shit out of any country that supports Alqueada is of course bullshit...
I wish we assisted in African countries more.
 
The us is often assisting africa, but the us method is by supplying virus' to kill people off and supporting and empowering the corrupt dictators that cause these mass genocides. Its the mass culling of the human race, it started in Russia with Lenin and Stalin, then Cambodia with the killing fields, China with Mao, now its africa and soon enough it will be the rest of us. People need to eat and when the food supply is cut off people die. Its cold its calculated and its not a theory its really happening as we speak.
 

Sincock

Fucking Wankers
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 8
One reason they're not helping: Money

What's in it for them if they help?

( I agree with what 2 good said too)
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
The us is often assisting africa, but the us method is by supplying virus' to kill people off and supporting and empowering the corrupt dictators that cause these mass genocides. Its the mass culling of the human race, it started in Russia with Lenin and Stalin, then Cambodia with the killing fields, China with Mao, now its africa and soon enough it will be the rest of us. People need to eat and when the food supply is cut off people die. Its cold its calculated and its not a theory its really happening as we speak.

Or the British with the Native Americans... =)
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 259
The us is often assisting africa, but the us method is by supplying virus' to kill people off and supporting and empowering the corrupt dictators that cause these mass genocides. Its the mass culling of the human race, it started in Russia with Lenin and Stalin, then Cambodia with the killing fields, China with Mao, now its africa and soon enough it will be the rest of us. People need to eat and when the food supply is cut off people die. Its cold its calculated and its not a theory its really happening as we speak.

I need some proof on this...not saying that its not true in some form but damn, I get the impression that you don't think very much of the U.S. and maybe I'm taking this the wrong way but you're making us sound like total fugging barbarians IMO. I'm not a fan of brutality by no means and if we (the U.S.) are involved in this, something is definately wrong, however we are not the picture that your comment portrays as a nation in whole. We have our issues for sure but damn...and i'll stop there.

As far as the orignal topic goes, to me it's like a double edged sword. For example, when daddy bush was in office and we went to Iraq, America started crying that "it's not our war, we are always getting involved in other countries battles" and daddy bush pulled out. Then every other country blasted us for doing it saying that we pulled out too early and we abandoned them while they needed our help. Now little bush is in office and has committed himself of not doing the same thing and people are screaming, bring our troops home again. So it's like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation in my opinion. The question is, who do you cater to? Your people saying "lets mind our own business" or the rest of the world thats saying "we need your help, why aren't you here?"


MOF
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
I need some proof on this...not saying that its not true in some form but damn, I get the impression that you don't think very much of the U.S. and maybe I'm taking this the wrong way but you're making us sound like total fugging barbarians IMO. I'm not a fan of brutality by no means and if we (the U.S.) are involved in this, something is definately wrong, however we are not the picture that your comment portrays as a nation in whole. We have our issues for sure but damn...and i'll stop there.

MOF

Well what he is reffering to , I believe , is the illuminatti plan to reduce the worlds population and populate it with only them...
I think what they want to do is rid the world of certain types of people , mostly the uneducated (instead of funding schools I guess) and eventually get the world population down to 500,000 as I recall.
there is somthing to do with space exploration from here, dont recall right now..
They had a recruiting drive some years ago with these stated goals on the website.
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 259
Heres the deal...the illuminatti plan is for people who believe in Steve Jackson and foreseeing the future. Or Nastradmus who also said it a long time ago. It could also be applied to the group that I'm in...(the religous believers). The Bible refers to a New World Order and most christians have no choice but to believe it just because it's in the bible alone. The difference in the two groups is that christians look at it as a event that will eventually happen that will mark the end of days...the Nas group view it as a current affair type thing, where all this was predicted forehand and using events of today to confirm it. So either way, they both may be correct to some extent, the question is...is it really happening now or are these just events of humanity gone crazy? Neither group knows that answer. Nobody does!


MOF
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
They predicted the fact that humanity would go crazy, but truthfully we have always been crazy, Im not convinced its worse , I think we just have the means to know about all of the insanity all at once so that does make it seem more crazy.
Probably the destruction of the earth itself is the biggest indicator...
Population control is a good argument for responsible planning for the future of the planet though.
 
Just to clarify something, when I said US what I meant is the administration. I dont wanna come off anti american because Im definitly not that, Im very much pro american because of the US constitution and bill of rights, 2 of the greatest documents in history along with the magna carta. Its documents like those along with the blood sweat and tears of our ancestors to give us the freedoms we very much take for granted today, and as a result are willing to let those human rights be taken away from us, altho their cost was truly great. The american people are great, its just the Govt, just like here in the UK the people are great its just our corrupt govt.
With regards to the mass genocide of the human race,
1.Look up "Georgia Guidestones" on google.
2. I also read a few years ago about a meeting of great scientists at Iron Mountain who met to try and come up with a way to create utopia(perfect world) on earth. They were there for 6 months and the final result was that it was impossible to create a perfect world. Also note that the theories of Darwin(survival of the fittest) and eugenics and socialism played a great part in the meeting, for that is the standard for educated(indoctinated) individuals.
But any scientist can tell you that there is not enough natural resources to support the whole world as is, so for an existence to carry on that they have become accostomed to then it means most of us will have to go, and the chosen superhumans(scientists, athletes, entrepreneurs, the super wealthy etc) go on to create a world in their "super" image, thats their plan.
3. Read the protocols of the elders of zion. Its said to be fake, but then if its fake why has most of it come true.
4. Revelations. Im not a religious person, I have my own beliefs based on intuition, experience, knowledge etc.
But either revelations is the word of god and was right all those years ago, or those that seek to dominate the world are really satanic(satanism=mans power over gods will) I beleive they are, and they are making it look like revelations. But what if we get the antichrist and the christ never comes and was a trick to make us roll over and wait for his arrival. My jury is still out on that one, its one i think about regularly.
5. If i could dig up the info on the WHO's involvement in the breakout of aids in africa i would dig that up, but I really dont have the time. Im sure a search on google like "WHO aids" or something like that will come up with answers.
6. The thousands of tests where they have released dangerous poisons onto an unknowing american public, and has been admitted should surely be enough evidence by itself.
I would like to point out once again, im in no way anti american, just anti corrupt govt. And very pro freedom.
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 259
Well I took your advice (because I got the time) and googled several aids conspiracy topics. The problem is statements like this...quote "Although many people poo-poo such ideas as paranoid thinking, there is circumstantial evidence that supports the AIDS germ warfare theory."

Circumstantial evidence, taken word for word out of the New World Dictionary of the American Language reads, that evidence which is offered to prove certain attendant circumstances from which the existence of the fact at issue may be inferred; indirect evidence.

So it's not in stone, it's indirect evidence...which basically means that its your call. So that brings up another issue in itself. I'm not saying that its not true and Im very open minded about it but until I see it in stone, it will remain questionable to me. I can't speak for everyone but I'm not easily convinced that the world is flat until I see the edge and until that happens, I think its round.

MOF
 
Well I took your advice (because I got the time) and googled several aids conspiracy topics. The problem is statements like this...quote "Although many people poo-poo such ideas as paranoid thinking, there is circumstantial evidence that supports the AIDS germ warfare theory."

Circumstantial evidence, taken word for word out of the New World Dictionary of the American Language reads, that evidence which is offered to prove certain attendant circumstances from which the existence of the fact at issue may be inferred; indirect evidence.

So it's not in stone, it's indirect evidence...which basically means that its your call. So that brings up another issue in itself. I'm not saying that its not true and Im very open minded about it but until I see it in stone, it will remain questionable to me. I can't speak for everyone but I'm not easily convinced that the world is flat until I see the edge and until that happens, I think its round.

MOF

Yeah okay, I accept that. Most of the evidence with regards to the aids being linked with the hepatitis jabs was very coincidental. The biggest cause of genocide in africa is war inflicted famine and corrupt dictators seizing crops as Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot and as relic pointed out, the british empire did the same to the natives wherever they landed. There are DNA aspects of aids that borrow from different virus' and would suggest it was man made genetically. But with the suspitious deaths of hundreds of micro biologists in recent months/and years would make it hard to get expert testimony on it. Sometimes when there is no hard evidence for one particular aspect of it you need to find corroborative evidence, like the deaths of the microbiologists which is entirely factual and can easily be proved, when so much evidence that points to the same aspect lacking evidence it makes the unproven scenario mathmatecally more probable even if still unprovable..
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 259
Yeah okay, I accept that. Most of the evidence with regards to the aids being linked with the hepatitis jabs was very coincidental. The biggest cause of genocide in africa is war inflicted famine and corrupt dictators seizing crops as Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot and as relic pointed out, the british empire did the same to the natives wherever they landed. There are DNA aspects of aids that borrow from different virus' and would suggest it was man made genetically. But with the suspitious deaths of hundreds of micro biologists in recent months/and years would make it hard to get expert testimony on it. Sometimes when there is no hard evidence for one particular aspect of it you need to find corroborative evidence, like the deaths of the microbiologists which is entirely factual and can easily be proved, when so much evidence that points to the same aspect lacking evidence it makes the unproven scenario mathmatecally more probable even if still unprovable..

LMAO, whew! Good thing my brain is working today...I clearly see your point, and for the most part, I believe...not convinced, but I believe. Its kinda like that scenario where, "if E-VER-Y-body else says you're wrong, chances are - you're wrong! not necessarily wrong by truth but by the masses." None of this is new info, I'm surprised that you didn't bring up the one about the goverment putting the flu virus in blankets and giving the blankets to native americans. Anyway, a pet peeve of mine is somebody posting something on the internet and people validating it just because joe blow says so. I can post a million links on comments made on the internet by average joes who are speaking on very sensitive subjects but are NOT experts on anything but giving their opinion, which is cool but useless info imo. Okay, Im done with this one.

great debate!
MOF
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Sometimes the answer is simple, why would our government get involved helping dying black folks when we couldn't even help the ones here,,,,ie: Katrina. But let some rich white folks get their neighborhood on fire and it's a national crisis. Kanye was right.
 
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