My Thoughts On Hip Hop Today

[Millenium]

I'm new to producing music and most of you may look down on me because of my limited gear, but I truely strive to keep hip hop fresh by adding new approaches but from what I've heard after reading most of the ProducersRoundtable is seems as if no one can quite match what is considered hip hop and if they do then they have to be underground! I saw alot of one sidedness in the discussion and kind of got discouraged!

Let's take neptunes for instance. When they first started being recognized everyone was like whoa that's ill cause it's different, but now because you hear them on everything people are tired of them! This not because it's the neptunes! It's because this has been the way that hip hop has been! Realistically do you think that if computer technology would of been as ill then as it is now that every artist wouldn't of put out singles left and right like today? Of course they would of! Maybe I'm straying from my point.

Cats act like in 89 that their wasn't an over saturation of copy cats. As I remember it there were Special Ed copy cats, Eric B & Rakim copy cats, and the list goes on.

Now as far as producers the internet was not as popular say fiftheen years ago as it is now and only the brainiest people even knew about the internet so music creation was a bit more difficult in regards to networking...


Nothing has changed except the format on the radio.
R & B is now fused with rap like symbionic creatures. We just didn't see it then because alot of people besides hip hop heads always bashed rap as a joke. Now it's so prevailent that it's ingrained in our culture.

Despite what some may say the rap may not be as lasting because no one gives it real time to sink in because people put out CD's like every couple months insted of Every Summer Or Every Winter! Used to wait for a year for an artist to come out with an album and that's along time to lose your focus.

When compared to some hip hop of back in the day with today's hip hop there are differences, but that's what makes hip hop what it is. The differences! I was never really a radio person if I had money cause I was always going out to cop the lastest drop from my favorites.

Also let's be realistic about producing back in the day! Imagine how censorship has changed over the past twenty years! Cats were getting sued for things they said and what they chose to do. It's not like tha any longer so imagine what you would of heard on the radio back in the day with today's censorship!
Think about it! I may not agree with everybody but I know one thing! I love hip hop! Might not like all that happens but I grew up on this and it's been with me so long!

Peace to anyone responding positive or negative

 

[Copenhagen]

No one looks down on you for whatever gear you got. At least most people in here don't.

Times (and technology) has definitely changed since the 80's. I think my main concern is that it seems that many artists make a couple of dope tracks, not to satisfy the culture anymore but to satisfy the label and radio, and then the rest of their CD is just fill in the blanks music.
I don't know if I've become more picky because of the larger selection of artists that are flooding the market but back in the day, when I bought an LP...I basically loved every track on the LP and could listen to it all way through without having an urge to skip a few tracks. Today I listen to 1 track, skip 5, listen to 1 and skip 5 again and the CD is finished.

Regarding f.x. the Neptunes, I don't hate on them. I think the trouble is that a lot of us like their first joints and enjoyed what they did for a couple of years but today, 4-5 years later, their still using the same recipe, which gets boring unless it's a perfect produced true banger (you can never get enough of them). The reason probably is that after we recognized them, then 2-3 years later the popheads recognized them and now even everybody else recognizes them incl. rock and stuff...you can see that from who have asked them to collaborate. These people keep having a demand for that same recipe but where the rest of us who have listened to them since day one are getting tired of it.

Innovation is good, but many people forget to polish of their stuff before sending it out.
A lot of the mainstream is ok. It just isn't very diverse...everybody is trying so obtain the same sound.
I think a couple of new producers with a different approach will help us take it to the next level...peace.