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Warzone Beat Battle - December 3-7, 2024

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BizangoNigma

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We are moving towards the final slowly but surely, I hope that someone from Europe will win, maybe even someone from Eastern Europe
 
Iron Keys

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Fade said:
Round 1 was really close for a few of them. Like 1 and 2 votes close! Solid turnout though for the voting.

@Iron Keys I check the mix when I vote but you shouldn't dwell on that too much. Sometimes I vote for a beat even though the mix isn't great but the beat itself was really good. It's hard to decide sometimes but I think it should be beat #1 then mix #2. But everyone's got their preferences.
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That's what I do. But if the mix is too off, it outweighs
 
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hosie said:
@Iron Keys Good to test your instincts sometimes. I think you've set a benchmark for yourself and feel more pressure than most when submitting.
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I wasn't going to enter this one, because I didn't have time to make a beat, and I wasn't really feeling this one - decided to give it a mix, then compose the remaining 50%. But I just weren't keen, got some aspects of the mix I'm not happy with either. Should have just binned it and not entered tbh.
Didn't want to miss an entry tho,as I won't be entering the christmas beat this.


hosie said:
Pretty sure this is my first Warzone. First mix in my new headphones and Jesus. The difference is night and day.
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That's great. Look forward to seeing the difference it makes

What ones did you get
 
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The winning brackets on the West conference, two (x2) extremely hard to choose between beats.

The odder thing, are that the matchups in style are identical in both brackets --- my mood was leaning a certain way today, which led to me choosing that style in both matchups.



Side note for east bracket --- who tf let the EDM through?
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PhxAZTracMaster

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Man, you guys really are trippin'! I'm not saying my beat was the best, but it was DEFINITELY better than the one I went up against! That
$h!t was all over the place and sounded choppy as hell! Anyways, Congrats to all that moved on. There are some pretty sick beats all around from you guys! I had fun and hope this doesn't piss off too many of you. If just a few of you, I can live with that!!! hahahaha
 
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PhxAZTracMaster said:
Man, you guys really are trippin'! I'm not saying my beat was the best, but it was DEFINITELY better than the one I went up against! That
$h!t was all over the place and sounded choppy as hell! Anyways, Congrats to all that moved on. There are some pretty sick beats all around from you guys! I had fun and hope this doesn't piss off too many of you. If just a few of you, I can live with that!!! hahahaha
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We all been there man! Sometimes it doesn't make sense at all, sometimes it does ! No worries.
 
BizangoNigma

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The main criterion for a good rap beat is whether the MC will be comfortable rapping. If not, then the rap beat is shit
 
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PhxAZTracMaster said:
Man, you guys really are trippin'! I'm not saying my beat was the best, but it was DEFINITELY better than the one I went up against! That
$h!t was all over the place and sounded choppy as hell! Anyways, Congrats to all that moved on. There are some pretty sick beats all around from you guys! I had fun and hope this doesn't piss off too many of you. If just a few of you, I can live with that!!! hahahaha
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I'm assuming your beat was the EDM beat... based on your comment the other day about submitting a Dub Corn Hyper trap Pony Dildo Wave beat or something.

This is a Hip Hop site, so generally if something leans too far into edm territory it won't get the votes.

Outside of that, I thought it was very well produced.
 
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Iron Keys said:
Я предполагаю, что ваш бит был в стиле EDM... основываясь на вашем комментарии на днях о том, что вы отправили бит в стиле Dub Corn Hyper Trap Pony Dildo Wave или что-то в этом роде.

Это сайт хип-хопа, поэтому, как правило, если что-то слишком сильно склоняется к жанру электронной танцевальной музыки, оно не получит голосов.

В остальном, я считаю, что фильм был очень хорошо
Iron Keys said:
I'm assuming your beat was the EDM beat... based on your comment the other day about submitting a Dub Corn Hyper trap Pony Dildo Wave beat or something.

This is a Hip Hop site, so generally if something leans too far into edm territory it won't get the votes.

Outside of that, I thought it was very well produced.
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I have a beat: Hybrid of EDM and Hip-Hop
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PhxAZTracMaster said:
Man, you guys really are trippin'! I'm not saying my beat was the best, but it was DEFINITELY better than the one I went up against! That
$h!t was all over the place and sounded choppy as hell! Anyways, Congrats to all that moved on. There are some pretty sick beats all around from you guys! I had fun and hope this doesn't piss off too many of you. If just a few of you, I can live with that!!! hahahaha
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The first and most important thing I focus on when voting is musicality and originality/creativity, and in my opinion, that should be the benchmark.

That said you shouldn't put too much value on the outcome of these battles, as the results often give a distorted picture. Apparently, some people simply don't like a certain style (the trap vs. boom bap debate) and auto vote the other beat, or even vote strategically.

If recognition is the thing you're after, you should enter a battle with a pro as judge, or send them to Timbaland:

 
Fade

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@PhxAZTracMaster I actually voted for your beat, that was really smooth. But some rounds that's just what happens and it could be a matter of 1 or 2 votes that decides. I was hope that people vote for the best beat but the thing with any battle (live or online) is that everyone has their preferences.
 
hosie

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BizangoNigma said:
We are moving towards the final slowly but surely, I hope that someone from Europe will win, maybe even someone from Eastern Europe
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Ah, come on....we are all friends here. We hope the best beat wins!

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PhxAZTracMaster said:
Man, you guys really are trippin'! I'm not saying my beat was the best, but it was DEFINITELY better than the one I went up against! That
$h!t was all over the place and sounded choppy as hell! Anyways, Congrats to all that moved on. There are some pretty sick beats all around from you guys! I had fun and hope this doesn't piss off too many of you. If just a few of you, I can live with that!!! hahahaha
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Just keep doing you and try not to bash other folks beats! we're all in the same boat. Some new, some old, some trying to improve, sold very old and stuck in their ways (*cough*).

Iron Keys said:
I wasn't going to enter this one, because I didn't have time to make a beat, and I wasn't really feeling this one - decided to give it a mix, then compose the remaining 50%. But I just weren't keen, got some aspects of the mix I'm not happy with either. Should have just binned it and not entered tbh.
Didn't want to miss an entry tho,as I won't be entering the christmas beat this.




That's great. Look forward to seeing the difference it makes

What ones did you get
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Got Bayerdynamic DT 990 Pro's. Procrastinated like I always do, sort of sacked the idea and then Amazon sent me a notification for a "Like new" set and it was a no brainer. Not entirely convinced that I have the super clear, immaculate sound that many of the reviews suggest but they have dramatically improved my mixing and mix choices have been near spot on when I've listened back on other devices. Bought a set of pads for my old Sony 7506's too so can still use them if required. Noticed a massive difference in my van which speaker system is basically 2 tin cans and a straw. So if bass gets through to a noticeable degree, sounds good and doesn't drown out the rest of the beat then I know it's on the money. In fact, I did it with this Warzone entry and was very happy with the result.

Leopard Cohen said:
Some real bangers in this round, hard to decide - in some faceoffs genuinely wish I could vote for both of them
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In a few instances I've felt the same way and decided not to vote at all. I think I did it with 1 battle in the first round of this Warzone.
 
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hosie said:
Got Bayerdynamic DT 990 Pro's. Procrastinated like I always do, sort of sacked the idea and then Amazon sent me a notification for a "Like new" set and it was a no brainer. Not entirely convinced that I have the super clear, immaculate sound that many of the reviews suggest but they have dramatically improved my mixing and mix choices have been near spot on when I've listened back on other devices. Bought a set of pads for my old Sony 7506's too so can still use them if required. Noticed a massive difference in my van which speaker system is basically 2 tin cans and a straw. So if bass gets through to a noticeable degree, sounds good and doesn't drown out the rest of the beat then I know it's on the money. In fact, I did it with this Warzone entry and was very happy with the result.
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Niiiice,

Yeah that's the way, man. I'm using Slate VSX, really fucking great as a translation tool. Even if I'm making/mixing in one room, I might start going to other rooms and realise there was a massive issue that sounded normal. Then you resolve. Good to have a bunch of playback devices. And great where you have one like your van where like 'oh xyz will happen on this, then that means abc'

Leopard Cohen said:
Some real bangers in this round, hard to decide - in some faceoffs genuinely wish I could vote for both of them
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hosie said:
In a few instances I've felt the same way and decided not to vote at all. I think I did it with 1 battle in the first round of this Warzone.
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Yeah definitely, I find that on the West brackets mostly.
Fortunately I had a feeling, and i decided to go with the beats that was leaning to that feeling. (i.e. very clean well composed, vs gritty compressy mix --- the one that i was feeling, i made this choice on the various battles where it applied; not saying which way i leant, don't want to impact voting.) But in reality, all 4 beats I was checking seemed like valid winners.
 
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Iron Keys said:
Niiiice,

Yeah that's the way, man. I'm using Slate VSX, really fucking great as a translation tool. Even if I'm making/mixing in one room, I might start going to other rooms and realise there was a massive issue that sounded normal. Then you resolve. Good to have a bunch of playback devices. And great where you have one like your van where like 'oh xyz will happen on this, then that means abc'




Yeah definitely, I find that on the West brackets mostly.
Fortunately I had a feeling, and i decided to go with the beats that was leaning to that feeling. (i.e. very clean well composed, vs gritty compressy mix --- the one that i was feeling, i made this choice on the various battles where it applied; not saying which way i leant, don't want to impact voting.) But in reality, all 4 beats I was checking seemed like valid winners.
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Okay, so now I'm going to end up with 3 sets of headphones. Slate look great.

I'm guessing software is similar to Abbey Road Studio NX? Which I think is great in theory but ends up messing with your head and how you mix or reference mixes.
 
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hosie said:
Okay, so now I'm going to end up with 3 sets of headphones. Slate look great.

I'm guessing software is similar to Abbey Road Studio NX? Which I think is great in theory but ends up messing with your head and how you mix or reference mixes.
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I guess it could indeed be. I believe Slate is leading the way in this arena though.

VSX has a bunch of rooms, and diff speakers in each. I'm forever trying to decide on my 'main' room. But I noticed an issue a couple times recently with the results im getting from the one i've been using recently. Going to switch up rooms and see if it disappears, could be other factors. The cool thing is tho, you immediately identify that issue in the other rooms, and address it.

I've had decent mixes for a while, but ever since I got VSX (and some other factor), my level has gone up another level, and that's led to my recent mixes.
 
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