Beat This! - August 25-26, 2021

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Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
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What's the matter with trap anyway bro?
How painfully unoriginal it all is.

It's literally the same drums, same pattern, same samples, same chord. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

I can't tell the difference between the same trap beats uploaded each time on here.

Why listen to the same one beat over and over and over? Why make the same beat over andover and over. Even the rappera flows are all identical.

My man there even said he was thinking about doing the same thing - of course, cause that's what trap is - doing exactly the same thing.

There's no skill in trap.
 
The hell you say!? Went for the big bass!? Noooo....
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off-topic but can't help but notice how weird it looks when Rasheeda's groovy neck move synced with the camera zooming.
 
How painfully unoriginal it all is.

It's literally the same drums, same pattern, same samples, same chord. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

I can't tell the difference between the same trap beats uploaded each time on here.

Why listen to the same one beat over and over and over? Why make the same beat over andover and over. Even the rappera flows are all identical.

My man there even said he was thinking about doing the same thing - of course, cause that's what trap is - doing exactly the same thing.

There's no skill in trap.
I mean... what u just said goes for 90% of boom bap and almost every other genre/sub-genre -especially in hip-hop- as well?
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 695
I mean... what u just said goes for 90% of boom bap and almost every other genre/sub-genre -especially in hip-hop- as well?
No.

Boom bap can have similar vibes, but the equivalent would be if everyone sampled just the same 1 bar of music and that's that.

Look at the sample flip page - peoples flips sound so different to eachother and they're all makimg boombap and sampling the same thing! And I'm not even a boombap guy.

In trap, it's making the same track 1000 times a day, following the same youtube tutorial, downloading the same sample pack, downloading the same "trap template" and using the same synth and chord --- the lead distributor of that stuff said it himself. He even said it ruined his mental health. Making the same 1 beat everyday for 3 years.
 
No.

Boom bap can have similar vibes, but the equivalent would be if everyone sampled just the same 1 bar of music and that's that.

Look at the sample flip page - peoples flips sound so different to eachother and they're all makimg boombap and sampling the same thing! And I'm not even a boombap guy.

In trap, it's making the same track 1000 times a day, following the same youtube tutorial, downloading the same sample pack, downloading the same "trap template" and using the same synth and chord --- the lead distributor of that stuff said it himself. He even said it ruined his mental health. Making the same 1 beat everyday for 3 years.
I mean honestly, my personal opinion is with you, but to challenge this with a dash of critical thinking;

Mobb deep, despite how much I love them, essentially just takes "t t ch t t t ch t" and 70% of the times the similar kick pattern with the similar sound texture, and just plays diff samples that mostly have the same feeling. that's the whole story of them for at least the entirety of their first 12 13 years of existence. Same goes for almost every east coast song back then, at least the ones I heard. and I'm bringing mobb deep in first because well I've listened to them the most.

And yeah you could say the vibes kinda differed from artist to artist, but the drum patterns, the sound textures and the harmonic and melodic elements did differ due to the variety of sample sources, but even the core of the chord progressions were the same for the majority of the time, Especially when there wasn't any samples or the samples weren't complex.

Another thing is well, despite being annoyingly similar, trap beats or at least non-sampled beats could be considered more brave, for as soon as you develop an ear it's kinda easier to make boom bap beats that stand out than trap beats that stand out.

on another thought process, since everyone else is also making trap music and they are all trying to be something they ain't -a producer who can win a beat this! or a warzone-, they have to put up facades to kinda make up for their lack of experience. "Fake it till u make it" as mr fade once put it. maybe that could be an answer to why trap beats sound similar; maybe both beginner boom bappers and beginner trappers copy the waves of "trend" within producers, but the boom bap ones don't really strike the listeners as "copying everyone" since the samples themselves provide a sense of uniqueness to the product no matter what.
 
I mean honestly, my personal opinion is with you, but to challenge this with a dash of critical thinking;

Mobb deep, despite how much I love them, essentially just takes "t t ch t t t ch t" and 70% of the times the similar kick pattern with the similar sound texture, and just plays diff samples that mostly have the same feeling. that's the whole story of them for at least the entirety of their first 12 13 years of existence. Same goes for almost every east coast song back then, at least the ones I heard. and I'm bringing mobb deep in first because well I've listened to them the most.

And yeah you could say the vibes kinda differed from artist to artist, but the drum patterns, the sound textures and the harmonic and melodic elements did differ due to the variety of sample sources, but even the core of the chord progressions were the same for the majority of the time, Especially when there wasn't any samples or the samples weren't complex.

Another thing is well, despite being annoyingly similar, trap beats or at least non-sampled beats could be considered more brave, for as soon as you develop an ear it's kinda easier to make boom bap beats that stand out than trap beats that stand out.

on another thought process, since everyone else is also making trap music and they are all trying to be something they ain't -a producer who can win a beat this! or a warzone-, they have to put up facades to kinda make up for their lack of experience. "Fake it till u make it" as mr fade once put it. maybe that could be an answer to why trap beats sound similar; maybe both beginner boom bappers and beginner trappers copy the waves of "trend" within producers, but the boom bap ones don't really strike the listeners as "copying everyone" since the samples themselves provide a sense of uniqueness to the product no matter what.
Boy, we gotta be so bored...
 

Vossi Beats

ILLIEN
Battle Points: 238
How painfully unoriginal it all is.

It's literally the same drums, same pattern, same samples, same chord. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

I can't tell the difference between the same trap beats uploaded each time on here.

Why listen to the same one beat over and over and over? Why make the same beat over andover and over. Even the rappera flows are all identical.

My man there even said he was thinking about doing the same thing - of course, cause that's what trap is - doing exactly the same thing.

There's no skill in trap.
Two times in a day I agree with @Armani. The planets must be aligning or something :LOL:
I have heard plenty of trap beats that in no way was just the same drums or chords or sounds or anything of the same other than they were trap.
Sure there are many who do what you say, but a lot of guys are making everything from scratch, even the sounds in serum or massive etc.
All genres has their clichès and people have always tried to copy what ever was hot at the moment. You have to decide for yourself if that is something you want to allow to ruin your mood and get upset about. Seems a bit like a waste of your time and energy if you ask me.
 

YannFer

The Mr Bernard Who Laughs
Battle Points: 166
@Iron Keys is just low key mad he cant produce dope trap. Therefore the hate. xd
Idk about @Iron Keys but I know that's the exact reason I agree with him... I can do all the boombap I like... But I can't do @crog85 or @Copyno to save my life.

Probably because I don't listen to trap stuff enough... for the very reason @Iron Keys mentioned. I get bored pretty fast.
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 695
Two times in a day I agree with @Armani. The planets must be aligning or something :LOL:
I have heard plenty of trap beats that in no way was just the same drums or chords or sounds or anything of the same other than they were trap.
Sure there are many who do what you say, but a lot of guys are making everything from scratch, even the sounds in serum or massive etc.
All genres has their clichès and people have always tried to copy what ever was hot at the moment. You have to decide for yourself if that is something you want to allow to ruin your mood and get upset about. Seems a bit like a waste of your time and energy if you ask me.
Nah even mainstream artists it sounds the same.

Even the person in the last warzome just sound like a crog beat.

Honestly the current state of hiphop is the worse thing to ever happen to it.
 
I've made it plenty before until i quickly realised it was all the same.

I can make better trap than you also
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lol no really tho, we need a trap themed beat this at the next season ASAP
 
Idk about @Iron Keys but I know that's the exact reason I agree with him... I can do all the boombap I like... But I can't do @crog85 or @Copyno to save my life.

Probably because I don't listen to trap stuff enough... for the very reason @Iron Keys mentioned. I get bored pretty fast.
Honestly, I'm kinda mad at how I can't make trap too. I mean I CAN make it, all u gotta do is just copy the drum patterns from a hit, use a chord pack or do some generic chords, then and a melody from another hit or sum. every dong is so similar they won't even be able to tell anyway.

The annoying part is I can only enjoy making a genre of music if I like that genre and listen to it, or else not only I'd hate my job, it ends up sounding phony. I mean there's money in it, all rappers demand trap beats nowadays, but I ain't never listenin to whatever the fuck some prick named lil baby is puttin out. screw that, I'm out.
 
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@Iron Keys once again stabbin at the trappers! Scared his little westcoast rock vibe might be compromised once again. Geez bro.....keep on going and nobody returning to this shit.

When this bullshit gon stop?

Be glad people doing their thing, even tho you might not like it, than just dont vote for it its that simple. Imo as stated before lots of boombap is pretty fucking repetitive and similar.
But nobody gives a rat ass. We as fellow producers just enjoy everybodys input. No matter the genre. This shit aint about you or your taste bro.

I would give you 100$ to make the best possible trap beat in 3 days. Its gonna sound shit, i guarantee that.
Ur bashing at @crog85 and @Stona Persona for no reason man, pretty fkn childish.

@Fade can we change the next weeks no themed Beat this to Trap theme with vocals? :geek: :geek:
 
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