The official "Getting Hated On" thread. Your stories of getting hated on.

[God]

We've all experienced haters. The envy and jealousy teeming within these haters as they passive-aggressively try to subvert your success, or place seeds of doubt in your success. I'm sure we've also hated on other people, though we won't admit it

In any case. I am curious to hear your player-hater stories. Post them here. Player-haters come in all shapes and sizes, from family members, alleged best friends and acquaintances.

Here's one:

I was in a group a long time ago, and there were four of us. Two of the other cats were all right with me as I was the "creative" cat behind our music - the songwriter - if you will. I would write the songs - they would lay their vocals and it was all good.

But there was that OTHER guy who always wanted to have "his vocals" up first. He wanted to be the star, but the thing is - dude had no talent. He was with us because he was our friend. We were all friends.

Anyway, he kept showing signs of wanting to write songs - which he did. And - after a committee vote - we would vote them down, because honestly - they sucked. We also split publishing 4 ways to be "equal" but the dude was really insecure. Anyway, we were good enough to get meeting with major label A&R cats.

Of course, when you meet with A&R folks, they ask "who writes the songs?" You usually lie and say, "we all do." Aah, but the rep knows better, with a little more questioning - it always came out that I wrote the music and choruses. Well - then the A&R rep would end up talking to me every time we met more than the other cats.

We got a showcase and "passed" the so-called BS showcase test. We were on our way... and happy as hell. Again, publishing was split 4 ways.

The other cats did their thing, but that ONE GUY I told you about who was always wanting to shine more-- he called me up out of the blue and said "you're out of the group."

I was like - dude, what the fuck? YOU are firing me? He said that he didn't want to go on if he wasn't involved in the songwriting process and wanted more input. Turns out he was also talking a lot of shit behind my back to friends and acquaintances. In fact, one engineer that recorded us said "If I were you - I would stay away from him. He told me (so and so) about you. Watch out."

So, since we were signed together as a group - he sabotaged the whole situation. I tried to say "man, stick with it. You're crazy." But ME getting fired from my own crew? No way. The other cats were out of the state at the time. He said that the other cats said he could do his thing, so it was a vote by democracy.

Well, this didn't sit well with the record company and figured that drama like this would cost them. They ended up cutting their ties with us.

The other cats came back and found out they basically lost their deal and their group. OUr manager was pissed. They tried to reform, but it never worked out. The cat eventually tried to get me to rejoin - I said no.

Fortunately - my situation turned out OK, but you always imagine what could've been.

Getting hated on by a member of your own crew - someone you would be in a band with. That was crazy for me at that age.

What's your hater story? Post it here...

 

[Relic]

Dang I got a few of these, Im just so damn naive I didnt realize until years later that it was "Hating on" lol.

We had a group with the artist Im working with now and his rap partner that he brought in some years ago.

EVERYTHING I said we needed to be doing this guy would bitch and yell and say how wrong I was, if I said we need to turn right here, then he would say it was left. we wasted YEARS dealing with this guy in the group until I couldnt take it anymore.

I mean waaaaay back in 97 Im trying to get these cats to write down lyrics so we could get them copyrighted and all that and after him bitchin back we put him in charge if paperwork and of course none of it ever got done.No BMI no ASCAP no nothing....

Then there was going to the studio (thank God it wasnt my money) this dude would literally take an hour to deliver a verse (which would be longer than 16 bars mind you), he would do it fine then tell the engineer he could do it better and fuck up for the next hour while we wanted to kill him.

Not only that the lyrics were so deep nobody could understand them (and I like deep shit), he would argue over that shit.

Last straw was when my man Im still workin with now finally had it out with dude and then I told dude to give me the masters(that I had produced) he wouldnt do it saying that we would just steal his voice..LOL

Mind you its like 19 songs which is all my beats but he's worried about his voice not the gang of other artists that were on it.

Ha we even went to a showcase in the ATL that I set up and dude purposely didnt bring the money that we gave him to buy our tickets to get in!


So we cut all ties with dude and he moved away I think he said sorry or some shit recently, but I aint gettin near the guy.


This is one story out of many, Ive had lots of hating in the past. I dont even let cats over anymore unless you come to me through someone.
Ive become much more ruthless give a fuck type far too late in life! lol

 

[dacalion]

Something that I run across quit a bit is cats hating the fact that I don't have a normal 9 to 5 job. Even family members dispise the fact that I don't HAVE to work for someone besides myself. I mean, it's not my fault that my parents had money and left me set when they passed.

I would think that any parent would want the best for their kids. It's not as much what they left me as much as it is what I've done with it. I made some good investments and they paid off. Yet they feel like I'm wasting money. I just don't get it. Here's the really funny thing, they don't hesitate to come to me when they need something. Imagine that! Ish is crazy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not rolling in dough, I'm just financtually set as far as all my bills go and I still am able to have my toys. I don't see anything wrong with that but damn, some of my people do. As far as hating on anyone else, I don't think so, I want to see everyone set with the finances. I want others to be as happy as I am. I would love to see everybody ball'n with a smile.

dac

 

[skidflow]

The last "BEAT THIS" contest. lmao

 

[Shonsteez]

Something that I run across quit a bit is cats hating the fact that I don't have a normal 9 to 5 job. Even family members dispise the fact that I don't HAVE to work for someone besides myself. I mean, it's not my fault that my parents had money and left me set when they passed.

I would think that any parent would want the best for their kids. It's not as much what they left me as much as it is what I've done with it. I made some good investments and they paid off. Yet they feel like I'm wasting money. I just don't get it. Here's the really funny thing, they don't hesitate to come to me when they need something. Imagine that! Ish is crazy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not rolling in dough, I'm just financtually set as far as all my bills go and I still am able to have my toys. I don't see anything wrong with that but damn, some of my people do. As far as hating on anyone else, I don't think so, I want to see everyone set with the finances. I want others to be as happy as I am. I would love to see everybody ball'n with a smile.

dac

Man thats just how life is i guess tho ya know, cuz theres always someone under you thats typically jealous of the fact that they never had the luxury of being that comfortable themselves....I think what it spawns from is people want you to share the humility that they go through and the pain that they go through to just get to where they are since they feel "how could you relate?"....and to a certain extent many people cant relate simply because they never had to really do anything in their lives that demanded serious effort and getting their hands dirty ya kno?....

I mean, i used to hate on my best homie growin up that never had to work a real day in his life because he worked for his parents which meant that he ultimately never really did shit on day to day basis that amounted to REAL work, but later i took a step back realized that i was really just mad that I myself had to work so hard to still not even have what he had and it seriously made me angry because i felt like he didn't deserve what he had. But later I had to squash all of that because i realized that the way i was thinkin wasn't helpin anything and surely wasn't productive so there u go ya kno.
To me its a matter of one man wishing he had the amenities of another man typically.
Not always, but typically.

 

[Ash Holmz]

one of the rappers i used to make beats for hated on me. I never liked working with dude from jump. He wasnt a very good emcee imo. and he was way too old to actually do anything with his career anyways. He was the type to call me up and talk my ear off about how he was gonna take over the game and shit. Anyways i fucked with this guy for awhile and he was a steady paying client. I did evrything I could too improve his flow and coach him to where his music could at least be presentable to where i could even attch my name to it as a producer lol. He was the type to take literally an hour and a half to lay down a verse. he would fuckup.. redo it, fuck up, redo it.. then we would punch in, punch out, punch in ..etc... dude never got it right. But meanwhile im taking the time out of my fucked up schedule on a weekly basis to still try to develop and record this dude.

Dude gets ultra-jealous when i tell him im doin my own album. in his eyes, he was thinking he was the "man" and everything should cater to him. Like I should drop evrything i got going and just concentrate on getting his wack ass album done. He thought i was just talking out my ass when I would give him tips on how make his flow better. Forget the fact that i been ryhming since middle school as well as writing award winning poems and stories. Well anyways I get a few songs done, and I was driving with wifey in the passenger seat and he and his girl were in the back seat. Now, I played one of my songs to about 6 or 7 heads whose opinion i respect and got nothing but positive feedabck they were sayin its fire. So i play it for him in the whip ... nothing .. he compltely ignores the track .. and doesnt even say anything about it .. good or bad.. nothing .. just acts like i had never played it. Im like aight whatever. maybe he wasnt feelin it. But if he didnt like it I would be cool with that. I just thought it was a dick-move not to even give your opinion either way on a track that your producer, who has been fuckin you with for months working on your shit, put his hard effort into. So the next song that happened to be in rotation in my ipod was like an R&b song or something that was by some well known cat forgot the name. He goes "is that you too? " with a big dumb fucking grin on his face like that shit was funny. I almost told him to get the fuck out right then and there and left him on street. I had spent mad time recording, producing, and guiding this guy from pure wackness to almost average and he goes and says some dumb shit like that. Wifey even told me that shit was mad akward and disrespectful. I never fucked with him after that. never answered his calls. If he called private and I picked up I would say im busy working on my own shit and didnt have time to do anything lol. After like a month of trying to call and hook back up with me, dude emails me sayin he found this other producer and they are making "hot" tracks and shit. Im like "thats cool, good luck". The he writes back, "yo lemme get some beats, i need a couple of ur joints on there, i got bread ready!"... im like "naw im using everything for MY album... peace" and that was the last i heard of him. Good riddens.

I can take ctriticism, if somebody tells me my beats or songs are wack I can deal with that. But I cant stand when people look down at you like ur not even there. If u ignore or disrespect me imma do the same back.. its only fair lol

 

[classic]

^^^^^^^^^^^
is that old dude who recorded at my crib & took 50 years to lay a verse... I forgot to tell you that dude left my booth smelling like bengay and old teeth..

 

[Ash Holmz]

^^^^^^^^^^^
is that old dude who recorded at my crib & took 50 years to lay a verse... I forgot to tell you that dude left my booth smelling like bengay and old teeth..

hell yeah it thats dude... the funniest thign bout dude was that there was three of them!! Not only was He wack and past his prime (doubt he EVER had a prime), but his two other boys were worse than him! . and they all thought they were the shit too... im so glad to have them out of my life. It wasnt even worth the money fuckin with those cats ....

 

[LDB]

If You're Not Being Hated On You're Not Doing Something Right!


if everything you did was "trash" no one would care or bother to speak on it!

 

[Shonsteez]

LOL....ahahahaha....dayum....haha

Yo in regards to Holmz' comment: that pretty much comes with the territory unfortunately when working with various artists, quote un-quote...lol.

I had an emcee once that was so gaurded about his music with me that when i started flexing my production to other emcees and personal projects the same thing happened to me too. Mutherfuckers think that your like their personal producer and try to keep you all to themselves....shits retarded.

 

[skidflow]

If You're Not Being Hated On You're Not Doing Something Right!


if everything you did was "trash" no one would care or bother to speak on it!

Yeah...you right...they say hate is the new love now, so if you aint getting hated on nowbody loves you.......huh?

 

[Iron Keys]

yo i just see it as, dont get mad if u getting hated on coz it mean u sumwhere.

i mean you mite think this mad shit, but i like keeping me some haters, it reminds u u got sumthing worth being envy'd. and wen cats is hating on me, i dont see it as a personal attack on me(well in a way), i know the reason they hating me is coz they love me so much. they want wat i got, they wanna be wat i am, they dig wat i do, they just hate the fact it aint them.

they aint hate me, they hate the fact they love me.

thts all i gotta say

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[skidflow]

There are many forms of Hate...the worst though is when you get "iced out" because people are afraid that you will upstage them. Example, myself and another producer was supposed to meet this guy so he could purchase some of our beats. The rapper supposedley cancelled the meeting so said my fellow producer but managed to meet with him later that night without me. Dude told me he wanted to call but it was like 2am and he said its was to late to call. This cat knew that I'd prolly be up making beats until 6am too.

 

[Chrono]

i haven't experienced haterism, I think is because i am not known as a risk to the many land-sharks nitche. This is an advantage considering who i am and what i will do. People love when they have nothing to fear. It's poetic when you have a pool of carnivores who have no idea the dimensions and possiblities of the ocean they swim in. if you hear my jams and do not pick up on yourself then consider yourself a leaf.

UPDATE

if you are a certain element then people have nothing to say about it because it does not fit into their understanding or ability to judge correctly. Reverbating strong like high(thick)-string E into thought!!! bashin power strings articulating everything BOOOM, ya dun

 

[2GooD Productions]

Im not good enough to have haters, Ive only ever had one real hate filled comment, and that was on myspace from some rock chick. It was easy to dismiss her comments being as she was very much in the minority.
It doesnt matter how "hot" a producer you are, you aint going to be liked by everyone, thats just life.

 

[God]

i haven't experienced haterism, I think is because i am not known as a risk to the many land-sharks nitche. This is an advantage considering who i am and what i will do. People love when they have nothing to fear. It's poetic when you have a pool of carnivores who have no idea the dimensions and possiblities of the ocean they swim in. if you hear my jams and do not pick up on yourself then consider yourself a leaf.

UPDATE

if you are a certain element then people have nothing to say about it because it does not fit into their understanding or ability to judge correctly. Reverbating strong like high(thick)-string E into thought!!! bashin power strings articulating everything BOOOM, ya dun

The old adage: "try to be a wolf in sheep's clothing." Or "act dumber than your mark."

It gives you a lot of room to maneuver w/o worrying about people working against you behind your back.

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Here's an extra story -

I used to work for an exec as an jr. rep/assistant. In the corporate structure, knowledge is power. What you know BEFORE it actually happens always gives you an edge. This means knowing what's happening in your company or outside your company.

In this case, I played kind of stupid for said exec. Did my duties, shut up. But a lot of my responsibilities was doing the exec's jobs, standing in meetings for him - basically being the exec. but getting paid shit for it. (Paying your dues in corporate-management jargon or "exploitation" as a real cat on the street would put it.)

Anyway, I needed to cut deals through the summer and work on a couple major projects (that the exec should be doing.) Since the exec was in the industry longer than I, I assumed the cat would give me some inside information on who I should contact, who should I take to lunch, etc., so I can one-up our competition and have the "inside scoop" on shit.

Anyway, the exec stayed tight lipped about it - didn't tell me shit. It got to the point where i viewed it as an attempt to get me to fuck up on deals and then knock me from this high-flyin' young cat to the cat that was "too naive" or "risk taking."

Anyway, I saw what was going on - and developed my own "network" of assistants and people working at our competitors and started getting all the inside info BEFORE my boss. I became in a sense more "powerful" than my boss, cuz he didn't have the inside info.

At board meetings with the label, my boss would always pawn questions about "wtf is coming up this quarter" to me - or "who knows what the fuck Label XXX is doing?" Me. The exec's hate was obvious when I asked him something and he told me "shit - why are you asking me - you seem to fucking know everything that's going on."

I got hated on pretty bad by my own fuckin' BOSS - who I was trying to help out.

Fucked up. That was a long time ago, though. Now if I see a cat like that - I try to promote him/her bc they have too much ambition to be an assistant. That ambition would get in the way doing menial coffee runs and shit like that. But they're good for the company, and they will always remember you bc you were nice to them and promoted them to the next level.